Katie Miller pretends to be sweet

When we covered the Vance marriage at “Standing Room Only,” people loved it. So of course we pounced when Katie Miller, the wife of White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller, started her own podcast. These are absolutely terrible people, but we had a lot of laughs filming this one.

Her show is terrible, but in a sick and even fascinating way. It made me realize that she’s got big dreams of rising high in MAGA — maybe even of becoming first lady to an unthinkably awful president. Check out our deep dive into YouTube’s most unnecessary podcast.

How many nannies do you have, Katie?

My guest, journalist Tess Owen, is also a new mom, and she brought both kinds of expertise to the show. In this clip, she talks about Miller’s intensely oppressive portrayal of motherhood. There’s just no way the Millers are raising three small kids without a lot of help.

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